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Summer house season 8, episode 12. Lindsay tries to support Carl, Carl gaslights Lindsay in one of the most bizarre conversations ever. Amanda tells Kyle she wants to do something for herself, Kyle gets pissed he can’t be a DJ… Spoiler alert, Kyle is now is a DJ & Amanda still hasn’t done the thing for herself. #basicbravolovingbitch #bravotv #peacock #summerhouse #season8 #kylecooke #lindsayhubbard #carlradke #amandabatula #paigedesorbo #danielleolivera #ciaramiller #gabbyprescod #jessesolomon #westwilson #craigconover #realitytv #andycohen #loverboy #sendit #bedbugs

5/12/2024, 1:05:31 AM

I did not know Carl had veneers ! I’m horrible at spotting them unless they’re huge like Matt Dillion’s in Something about Mary. #kylecooke #amandabatula #ciaramiller #paigedesorbo #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #lukegulbranson #andreadenver #gabbyprecod #westconradwilson #jessesolomon #summerhouse #kymanda #hamptons #bravo #bravotv

5/11/2024, 11:09:28 PM

I chose this photo because it pretty much sums up the state of their relationship at that moment. One coming, one going, not just different pages, perhaps different books altogether. I couldn’t fit the last slide because my insta skills are lousy, but it’s finished below - let me know your thoughts if you can✌️ (Last slide) Carl’s biggest hurdle right now is himself & working through his recovery. Addiction is often minimized but it’s typically a lifelong journey (that must be managed, carefully). Unless a person has been in that place personally or had a family member/friend in that situation- it’s difficult to understand the hold it can have, the mental mind-f*ck, and collateral damage that goes with it. Relationships are usually the first to suffer whether in recovery or not. It may be that he’s just too raw to be in this space. Lindsay IS being a good partner here. While I don’t pretend to know the intricacies of their relationship, I can guess that’s she’s trying. But, the damage has already been done because of previous situations/conversations/experiences. Neither appear to have solid conflict resolution skills which has led to (what appears to be) oscillation between avoidance/anxious attachment. People can say Carl shouldn’t have proposed or call Lindsay controlling. IMO neither Lindsay nor Carl are wrong or bad people- they’re just in different pages/stages in life. It appears Carl genuinely wanted to ride off into the sunset - but this situation highlights the importance of examining readiness to commit and whether one “high” is replacing another. As Robbie Williams says in his doc when on a massive tour “this is too big for me.” It was too big for Carl at that moment. Timing isn’t everything, but it IS sometimes. Edit: Carl seems extremely anxious in the last ep. When a person is triggered - it activates the emotional parts for the brain which can cause a reaction that doesn’t fit the scenario. The frontal lobes are literally offline - his impulsivity to call off things may have been a result of panic/subconscious/autonomic fear based/trauma response. #summerhouse #carlradke #addiction #recovery #lindsayhubbard #bravotv #engagementblownup

5/11/2024, 4:18:54 PM

Brock I know when you wear shirts like this it's hard to wrap your head around the "male rage" but you need look no further. Kyles freak out on last nights episode was the only example you need. Calling his wife a B*tch for wanting to develop something of her own. Not allowing his wife the space to express her feelings. Also note worthy : kind of crazy hearing a man who has past criminal record for slapping his partner say he doesn't know what male rage is 🤔 #summerhouse #lindsayvscarl #lindsayhubbard #carlradke #bravo #bravotv @bravo #vanderpump #pumprules #vpr #jessesollman #danielle #ciaramiller #amanda #gabby #kylecooke

5/10/2024, 6:32:33 PM

Ok ok ok Carl definitely didn't do it right. He went around and was expressing himself to everyone other than his future wife. He is pulling a Kyle Richards. Not being honest and treating his partner shitty because he can't handle the confrontation. #justiceforlindsay #summerhouse #bravo #bravotv #winterhouse #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #ciaramiller #paigedesorbo #kylecooke #amanda #gabby #danielle

5/10/2024, 5:55:33 PM

Is anyone else struggling with empathy fatigue due to all the relationship issues on #summerhouse ?! So many thoughts on the recent episode…what did you all think?! #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #relationships #relationshipsarehard #breakup #cancer #survivor #resources #bravo #therapy #therapist #yourbishtherapistpodcast Disclaimer: Posts are not intended to diagnose, treat or provide medical advice. Your Bish Therapist (YBT) is for entertainment and informational purposes only. The podcast, my opinions, and posts, are my own and are not associated with past or present employers, any organizations, Bravo TV, Grey Heart productions or any other television network. The information in YBT podcast and on its its social media is provided for general informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose or treat. Please do not act or refrain from acting based on anything you read, see, or hear on YBT, podcast or associated social media. Communicating with YBT via email, and/or social media does not form a therapeutic alliance. Melissa, operator of YBT, is unable to provide any therapeutic advice, treatment or feedback.

5/10/2024, 2:45:00 PM

The first round of Summer House tweets. Y’all, Carl is coming off as a manipulative 🐱 it really seems like he is trying to ‘activate’ Lindsay so she calls the wedding off and he can be Poor Lil Carl. Oops I almost said Tom. Wait, are they the same person? #summerhouse Anyways, enjoy the first Summer House roundup! ⭐️ do not forget to like, comment and share! 🥰 invite your friends to my account so we keep growing our little community 🥹! Those are two ⭐️free⭐️ways of supporting me and my account. Let’s keep building and expanding our community! 💕 💰if you feel like going the extra mile you can always click the link in my bio and support me there 😍 - your support allows me to keep creating, so it is a win win for all😍😘 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ ♥️💕😍 #summerhousebravo #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #hubbhouse #amandabatula #drinkloverboy #thevalleybravo #kristendoute #jaxtaylor #lisavanderpump #vanderpumprules #pumprules #cicilovesyou 💓💓💓 #tweetsfromtwitter 🌼🌼💛

5/10/2024, 12:40:57 PM

Psyched On Bravo✨ My thoughts on Carl & Lindsay @carlradke I get it #bravo #summerhouse #carlradke #realitytv #psychology #psychologist #hamptons #relationships #marriage

5/10/2024, 5:17:54 AM

Just gotta say, imo, if Carl knew he wasn’t going to go through with the marriage, why would he be freaking out about Lindsay seeing the conversation with his parents?? Again, imo, he was thinking ahead, like, ‘ I don’t want my wife to hate my parents.’ Summerhouse films over the summer and airs the following Spring. This has always been the schedule. Carl knows this. I really think he’s totally unsure what to do at this point. #summerhouse #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #engagement #nyc #hamptons #summer #vacation #bravotv #breakup #planned #mysocalledbravolife #vanderpumprules #summerhousemarthasvineyard #vacay #mysocalledbravolife

5/10/2024, 3:18:13 AM

One BIG consideration in a relationship/marriage (from a western/individualist perspective - which Lindsay & Carl appear to be following). Be careful when sharing the intimate details of your relationship with your parents! Vent if needed but it’s a slippery slope. Despite their best efforts, parents will never be neutral. This is why you can’t counsel your children, friends or family members. There’s an underlying relationship/bias that makes it impossible to see both sides. If you’re going to air your concerns, as “authentic” because you need or want to be this way on a reality TV show, considerations must be made that include whether or not the conversation will be edited, that doing it without your partner robs them of the ability to participate and be present therefore speak to it (thus only one perspective is aired), and the relationship now holds secrets that the “world” or at least “other individuals” are more are privy to - than your finance. I agree with Lindsay. There’s certain boundaries that are murky to cross. While parents can and should be able to comfort and support their children in difficult times (if they have that relationship) - beyond that it can get muddy with enmeshment and unclear boundaries- (exceptions to this obviously include cases where there may be abuse, children involved/issues, infidelity etc.), because when and if you work it out with said partner - the information remains with other people. Opinions become jaded and thus interfamilial relationships have the potential to suffer. As noted previously, there’s no “one” way to do relationships, and a collectivist approach would be very different. However, with every action has a reaction. Leading with respect and transparency is just as important as trust. Without any of those things there’s no foundation. #summerhouse #lindsayhubbard #carlradke #kylecooke #hamptons #paigedesorbo #craigconover #bravotv #wwhl #engagementdisaster

5/10/2024, 3:17:32 AM

Get to know the amazing (and officially my bestie!!) samanthafeher from Summer House! We said Pink and Fun and it was a blast!!! Adore you! Find the full interview on my YouTube Channel and on all Podcast streaming platforms! #summerhouse #amandabatula #carlradke #kylecooke #paigedesorbo #ciaramiller #danielleolivera #lindsayhubbard #myaallen #samanthafeher #chrisleoni #gabbyprescod #bravo #bravotv

5/9/2024, 12:59:32 PM

Get to know the amazing (and officially my bestie!!) samanthafeher from Summer House! We said Pink and Fun and it was a blast!!! Adore you! Find the full interview on my YouTube Channel and on all Podcast streaming platforms! #summerhouse #amandabatula #carlradke #kylecooke #paigedesorbo #ciaramiller #danielleolivera #lindsayhubbard #myaallen #samanthafeher #chrisleoni #gabbyprescod #bravo #bravotv

5/8/2024, 6:02:37 AM

Get to know the amazing (and officially my bestie!!) samanthafeher from Summer House! We said Pink and Fun and it was a blast!!! Adore you! Find the full interview on my YouTube Channel and on all Podcast streaming platforms! #summerhouse #amandabatula #carlradke #kylecooke #paigedesorbo #ciaramiller #danielleolivera #lindsayhubbard #myaallen #samanthafeher #chrisleoni #gabbyprescod #bravo #bravotv

5/7/2024, 8:18:48 PM

FINALLY!!! Some long awaited tea from the long lost Carl! 👀 #bravocon #summerhouse #bravocon2023 #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #bravotv #bravolebrities #bravopost #bravowwhl

5/7/2024, 12:00:51 AM

Summer House ☀️ Twitter roundup (Part 4)!!! Swipe to see my fav tweets from Thursday’s new episode!!!

5/6/2024, 10:11:28 PM

Summer House ☀️ Twitter roundup (Part 3)!!! Swipe to see my fav tweets from Thursday’s new episode!!!

5/6/2024, 10:03:01 PM

Summer House ☀️ Twitter roundup (Part 2)!!! Swipe to see my fav tweets from Thursday’s new episode!!!

5/6/2024, 9:58:34 PM

Summer House ☀️ Twitter roundup (Part 1)!!! Swipe to see my fav tweets from Thursday’s new episode!!!

5/6/2024, 2:47:57 PM

Apparently we are going to see it all play out next season 👀 (Via: radioandysxm) #bravo #bravotv #andycohen #andycohenlive #radioandy #siriusxm #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #hubbhouse #radhouse #summerhouse #realitytv #breakups #ratemybravo #bravoholics #bravoaddict

5/6/2024, 8:50:54 AM

No new Martha’s Vineyard this week! I’ve been dealing with power outages in my building off and on all day so I couldn’t go live this morning😩. Kendrick and I will double up recaps next Sunday tho! Now let me know your thoughts on the (delayed) Summer House After Show below!👇🏼 #summerhousemarthasvineyard #summerhousebravo #lindsayhubbard #carlradke #paigedesorbo #craigconover

5/6/2024, 3:13:27 AM

Lindsay not celebrating Gabby at her birthday?! I need to know what happened at the reunion but I hope they’re still friends! #summerhouse #kylecooke #amandabatula #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #gabbyprescod #ciaramiller #paigedesorbo #westwilson #jessesolomon #bravotv

5/6/2024, 1:17:33 AM

People mag official… Carl’s letter to the wedding guests is 🫣. I’m not looking forward to watching this play out tbh (Via: people) #bravo #bravotv #summerhouse #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #radhouse #engagement #breakup #peoplemagazine #peoplemagazine #summerhousebravo #ratemybravo #bravoholics #bravoaddict #realitytv #realitytelevision

5/5/2024, 8:49:38 AM

FINALLY!!! Some long awaited tea from the long lost Carl! 👀 #bravocon #summerhouse #bravocon2023 #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #bravotv #bravolebrities #bravopost #bravowwhl

5/5/2024, 6:09:59 AM

Hear me out… we don’t see it all. Lindsay’s fights we see on tv are bad. We aren’t getting the whole story. That being said- the way Carl is doing this, I don’t like. #bravo #ipausedmytv #summerhouse #bravomemes #kylecooke #amandabatula #paigedesorbo #westwilson #ciaramiller #danielleolivera #gabbyprecod #jessesoloman #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #unpopularopinion #bravothoughts

5/4/2024, 3:17:16 PM

Get to know the amazing (and officially my bestie!!) samanthafeher from Summer House! We said Pink and Fun and it was a blast!!! Adore you! Find the full interview on my YouTube Channel and on all Podcast streaming platforms! #summerhouse #amandabatula #carlradke #kylecooke #paigedesorbo #ciaramiller #danielleolivera #lindsayhubbard #myaallen #samanthafeher #chrisleoni #gabbyprescod #bravo #bravotv

5/4/2024, 3:02:25 PM

🚨A picture of today’s #SummerHouse S8 reunion taping has leaked!🚨 credit: theandysofbravo

5/4/2024, 4:06:58 AM

In this episode, we discuss how Taylor Swift's number one fan is being haunted by some cows, and then we delve a little deeper into why we've made a giant 180 turn on Carl and Lindsay. Find us wherever you get your podcasts! #summerhouse #hopelessnottruthlesspod #bravotv #bravo #bravotvpodcast #bravosummerhouse #summerhousebravo #carlradke #lindsayhubbard

5/3/2024, 11:54:51 PM

Ooof. Maybe he couldn’t find the words to end it ? But showing up to the shower ? I still don’t think she was totally blindsided but Carl is giving such mixed signals I can see her confusion for real. #kylecooke #amandabatula #ciaramiller #paigedesorbo #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #lukegulbranson #andreadenver #gabbyprecod #westconradwilson #jessesolomon #summerhouse #kymanda #hamptons #bravo #bravotv

5/3/2024, 9:21:13 PM

Last nights episode was pretty heavy - Carl is a ball of anxiety. Lindsay can tell she’s not getting the full story and frankly is more patient than I expected her to be. I feel for both of them. Enjoy my favorite moments! #summerhouse #bravo #wwhl #fyp #paigedesorbo #craigconover #lindsayhubbard #carlradke

5/3/2024, 8:59:26 PM

danielle on the end (where she belongs tbh)! west not by ciara OR jesse!?! paige AFTER ciara?! WHAT IN THE SEATING CHART FRIGGIN HECK IS GOIN ON HERE I LOVE MESS #summerhouse #lindsayhubbard #carlradke #kylecooke #amandabatula #loverboy #bravotv

5/3/2024, 6:10:18 PM

The #SummerHouse S8 reunion seating chart is here!☀️ What do you guys think? credit: @bravotv

5/3/2024, 5:55:49 PM

Reunion seating chart! The Summer House marketing is my favorite ⛱️☀️🍉 #summerhouse #summerhousemv #hamptons #marthasvineyard #summerhousemarthasvineyard #bravo #pumprules #belowdeck #rhonj #bravotv #wwhl #andycohen #lindsayhubbard #paigedesorbo #carlradke

5/3/2024, 5:44:31 PM

The Summer House seating chart is here! ☀️ #summerhouse #summerhousereunion #summerhousemv #bravotv #lindsayhubbard #carlradke

5/3/2024, 5:42:11 PM

Andy says it’s Summer House reunion day!! I am pumped for this reunion for a few reasons. Mainly because the girls are banding together this season like The Spice Girls and it’s been glorious to watch 💗🔥 #andycohen #bravo #bravotv #bravoholics #summerhouse #summerhousereunion #paigedesorbo #lindsayhubbard #ciaramiller #amandabatula #gabbyprescod #danielleolivera #westwilson #jessesoloman #kylecooke #carlradke #howmanysandwicheshaveyoumadeforme #summershouldbefun #loverboy #realitytv #reunion

5/3/2024, 5:33:30 PM

The #SummerHouse S8 reunion films today!☀️👀 Expect a seating chart later today!

5/3/2024, 3:00:00 PM

This isn’t Summer House: Jersey Shore parents edition. Carl had to organize and invite the cameras and production to travel to his parents’ place in NJ. He is blaming everything but his own fear of commitment. You can’t cry cameras when there was absolutely nothing spontaneous about that conversation with his mom and stepdad. I honestly think Carl proposed because he wanted the image of being a married man who has his shit together when it’s very clear he’s far from that. This episode had me so emotional. Thinking about Lindsay’s greatest fears of abandonment being realized through the one person who should know her better than anyone. The slightest amount of lack of communication makes Lindsay feel uncomfortable. It really doesn’t take knowing her that well to know that about her. Carl needs to say the words ‘I’m not equipped for this relationship’ but he’d rather blame cameras and Lindsay. I’ve said from day one - Lindsay has always been an open book, love her or hate her, she’s NEVER hidden who she is. For Carl to act like this is brand new information is just a cop out move. He’s missing the fact that he chose to propose when he did. He asked her to marry him. Where’s the accountability from him??

5/3/2024, 2:07:26 PM

Man I’m getting whiplash from Carl and Lindsay. Like they have taken turns being the villain but as it stands now, it seems like Carl is getting the villain edit. #kylecooke #amandabatula #ciaramiller #paigedesorbo #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #lukegulbranson #andreadenver #gabbyprecod #westconradwilson #jessesolomon #summerhouse #kymanda #hamptons #bravo #bravotv

5/3/2024, 2:02:49 PM

Ya I was creepin’! 👀 Do y’all ever wonder if these people are actually friends? Like, actually? Cuz I do. Well there were some new & familiar faces that attended Lindsay’s bachelorette including Jaclyn Shuman from Season 2! Today this blonde bombshell splits her time between #nashville and #newyork with her hubby Tomasz Hunka, who works in the private jet industry! #summerhouse #bravotv #jaclynshuman #bodymodel #model #montauk #hamptons #lindsayhubbard #carlradke #bachelorette #thenvsnow

5/3/2024, 3:35:41 AM

Peep Lindsay commenting on @twojudgeygirls post about Carl! She’s activated and hilarious! 👨‍🌾 Do you guys think Carl did her dirty by calling off the engagement on the show and having all these conversations about it on camera? #lindsayhubbard #summerhouse #bravo #bravotv #activated #carlradke #brokenheart #engamenent #gardening #hubbhouse

5/2/2024, 3:54:41 PM

FINALLY!!! Some long awaited tea from the long lost Carl! 👀 #bravocon #summerhouse #bravocon2023 #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #bravotv #bravolebrities #bravopost #bravowwhl

5/2/2024, 7:05:46 AM

Apparently we are going to see it all play out next season 👀 (Via: radioandysxm) #bravo #bravotv #andycohen #andycohenlive #radioandy #siriusxm #carlradke #lindsayhubbard #hubbhouse #radhouse #summerhouse #realitytv #breakups #ratemybravo #bravoholics #bravoaddict

5/1/2024, 8:11:02 AM